Nutritionist Online Programs – Alchemy of Nourishment With Esther Cohen [Interview]

welcome to intrinsic motivation<font color="#E5E5E5"> from a</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">homies perspective podcast</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> where we</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> meet</font> experts<font color="#E5E5E5"> from all walks of life to learn</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">their intrinsic</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> motivations so that they</font> can share it<font color="#CCCCCC"> with</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the world</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> what</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> do we</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">have in store today</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> stay tuned to</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> find</font> out<font color="#E5E5E5"> more</font> good afternoon everybody you are<font color="#CCCCCC"> in</font> tuned to another episode of intrinsic motivation from<font color="#E5E5E5"> a homies perspective</font> I am<font color="#E5E5E5"> Hamza and I am David and ever since</font> we started<font color="#E5E5E5"> our podcast we always like to</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">highlight synchronicities because there</font> are a<font color="#E5E5E5"> lot of thinker and I see them a</font> lot<font color="#CCCCCC"> of connecting the</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> dots that we do</font> not see<font color="#E5E5E5"> but sometimes when we talk about</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">them or others talk</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> about them we can</font> see<font color="#CCCCCC"> how</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the stars aligned and before we</font> get started<font color="#E5E5E5"> with</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> our new guests before I</font> introduce her that she<font color="#E5E5E5"> is actually here</font> based off of synchronicity<font color="#E5E5E5"> so a a good</font> friend of mine<font color="#E5E5E5"> Margie Eden in Atlanta</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">I've known her</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> for years she's really</font> good friend she sent out an email<font color="#CCCCCC"> over</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">the holidays about a family member who</font> had a new book out<font color="#E5E5E5"> on Amazon and wanted</font> to<font color="#CCCCCC"> promote the</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> book called alchemy</font> nourishment and I was like she needs to <font color="#E5E5E5">be on our</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> podcast is just what intrinsic</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">motivation is all about we love to talk</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">about things that are motivate people</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">and learn about life and nutrition and</font> so on and so forth<font color="#E5E5E5"> and with that I</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> would</font> like<font color="#E5E5E5"> to introduce Esther Cohen to the</font> podcast welcome<font color="#E5E5E5"> Esther ah thank you</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">excited to</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> be</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> here absolutely so I am so</font> I'm interested<font color="#CCCCCC"> it's interesting because</font> the last I<font color="#E5E5E5"> want to say</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> the</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> two last two</font> or<font color="#CCCCCC"> three</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> episodes</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> and we're on I</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> think</font> episode 45 or 46 now<font color="#E5E5E5"> but we are</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> getting</font> a huge<font color="#CCCCCC"> concentration of people in</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">Colorado through</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> no intention whatsoever</font> but<font color="#E5E5E5"> it seems like</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> that is the where all</font> the cool<font color="#CCCCCC"> kids hang</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> out and urine in</font> Colorado as well yeah yes that's true <font color="#E5E5E5">I think</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> alerts will do</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> thing out here</font> and but by that I<font color="#E5E5E5"> think there's a lot of</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">people here who kind of are on the</font> cutting<font color="#E5E5E5"> edge of really I'm going to say</font> energy<font color="#CCCCCC"> medicine</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> healing exploration</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">really being able</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to integrate</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> that</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> into</font> their<font color="#CCCCCC"> daily life experience</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">hmm yeah well let</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> me let</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> me ask</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> you</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">after</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> because I remember a long time ago</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">ad</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> my parents had split</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> up and we moved</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">to Florida</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to be around my grandparents</font> which was fantastic<font color="#CCCCCC"> a whole nother story</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">but what was</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> interesting in Orlando at</font> the time was a huge<font color="#CCCCCC"> majority of folks</font> there were from the tri-state<font color="#CCCCCC"> they're</font> from<font color="#E5E5E5"> New York Connecticut</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> New Jersey</font> Pennsylvania<font color="#CCCCCC"> and it was like wow the</font> second home and in<font color="#CCCCCC"> Colorado I've heard</font> Colorado<font color="#E5E5E5"> in places</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> like Utah they're</font> like California expats <font color="#E5E5E5">where you can live like California</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> but</font> the wages<font color="#E5E5E5"> or the cost of living is a lot</font> cheaper<font color="#CCCCCC"> are you originally from</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">California</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">no I'm originally from Georgia</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> that</font> makes sense<font color="#E5E5E5"> Jerry Moore so how are you</font> related<font color="#CCCCCC"> to Margie</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> she's my sister</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> she's</font> my older sister <font color="#CCCCCC">Margie with you but I moved to Colorado</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">when I was</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> 17 so</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> it's been a long time</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">okay I lived in the south and I was</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">really drawn out</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> here by the mountains</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">the wildness I'd never grew up in the</font> city<font color="#E5E5E5"> you know I've never gone camping</font> I've never certainly Rock climbed or anything like<font color="#E5E5E5"> that and it's just really</font> much more<font color="#E5E5E5"> of Who I am as a person to be</font> you know in the wilderness<font color="#CCCCCC"> and a lot of</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">what my work is around I would say it's</font> really<font color="#E5E5E5"> helping people reconnect with</font> their wild nature that<font color="#E5E5E5"> aspect of</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">ourselves that's not been so</font> enculturated<font color="#E5E5E5"> and and diminished and and</font> give it voice and just allow<font color="#CCCCCC"> that</font> expression<font color="#E5E5E5"> to to reconnect to</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> our roots</font> now you've<font color="#E5E5E5"> been</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> out there</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> since you were</font> 17 correct<font color="#E5E5E5"> you've been out there since</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">you were 17 yes that's correct</font> so let me<font color="#E5E5E5"> ask</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> you before moving out</font> there<font color="#CCCCCC"> I</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> am a</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> writ</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> like I mentioned I'm</font> originally from New<font color="#CCCCCC"> Jersey</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">David's from California and we had</font> different<font color="#CCCCCC"> rings let's say from</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the</font> traditional Bible Belt<font color="#E5E5E5"> and you mentioned</font> that you<font color="#CCCCCC"> were</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> attracted to the wildness</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">what was life like in Georgia</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> juxtaposed</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">to what was really drawing you</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> out to</font> call out<font color="#CCCCCC"> of it</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> oh I would say that is in</font> Georgia<font color="#E5E5E5"> I just kind of envisioned myself</font> following<font color="#CCCCCC"> in the footsteps of</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> my older</font> siblings<font color="#E5E5E5"> and kind of doing a more</font> traditional life of<font color="#E5E5E5"> going to</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> college</font> maybe joining<font color="#E5E5E5"> a sorority or</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> fraternity</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">and I don't</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> know getting</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> a job</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> I</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> think</font> back then<font color="#CCCCCC"> I was thinking I would be a</font> therapist a psychotherapist<font color="#E5E5E5"> and and just</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">being able to I don't</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> know with my life</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">and what I thought the more patterns</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">traditional way and I was one that I</font> felt<font color="#E5E5E5"> like I needed</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to really understand</font> who I was that<font color="#CCCCCC"> was more my motivating</font> factor than<font color="#CCCCCC"> who</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> what I was going</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to</font> become and what my work<font color="#CCCCCC"> was going</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> to</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> be</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">in the world</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> that I needed to have a</font> much stronger connection to who I was to be able<font color="#E5E5E5"> to find out what kind of work I</font> wanted<font color="#E5E5E5"> to do in the world</font> so at 17<font color="#E5E5E5"> I</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> mean it's still a very</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">impressionable age and I'm just</font> wondering<font color="#CCCCCC"> ona stay here for a second of</font> the you know it's not the pressure but especially<font color="#E5E5E5"> at that age your parents want</font> what's<font color="#CCCCCC"> best for you and</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> you're an</font> environment<font color="#CCCCCC"> that's really</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> structured I'm</font> just wondering<font color="#CCCCCC"> it if they were</font> automatically<font color="#E5E5E5"> like yeah go west young</font> lady<font color="#E5E5E5"> we'd love before</font> or<font color="#E5E5E5"> like what are you thinking</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> this</font> through being really want to go beyond what we<font color="#CCCCCC"> traditionally have</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> done for our</font> family<font color="#CCCCCC"> I think it</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> was a mix my father</font> passed away when<font color="#E5E5E5"> I was 14</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> though</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> and I'm</font> you know<font color="#E5E5E5"> 10 years</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> younger than my sister</font> so<font color="#CCCCCC"> I think it was a real mixture</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> of</font> realizing that I<font color="#CCCCCC"> was having</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> a</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> difficult</font> time as I I graduated high school a<font color="#CCCCCC"> year</font> early<font color="#E5E5E5"> and you know I was in a place of</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">life and really needing to to find some</font> kind<font color="#E5E5E5"> of</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> chord</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> in myself</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> some kind</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> of</font> identity<font color="#E5E5E5"> that I could you know claim as</font> my own<font color="#E5E5E5"> and feel good about and so my</font> mother and her<font color="#CCCCCC"> wisdom did she helped</font> drive<font color="#E5E5E5"> me out west</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> she said you know I</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">think you didn't</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> need to go her who you</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">are even though it constantly</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> rubbed</font> against her<font color="#CCCCCC"> and also you know ways that</font> she found difficult she could recognize my spirit<font color="#E5E5E5"> in my need to kind of connect</font> with who I<font color="#E5E5E5"> am so she did encourage that</font> support<font color="#CCCCCC"> that</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">so</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> Esther</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> Hall how how did you how did</font> you decide that<font color="#E5E5E5"> you're going to go</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to</font> Colorado<font color="#E5E5E5"> I mean I</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> could someone at one</font> point in time<font color="#CCCCCC"> and</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> said I really like</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> it</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">here</font> or was it<font color="#E5E5E5"> how did you decide that that's</font> where you can go well honestly I was a real daddy's<font color="#E5E5E5"> girl and when I was real</font> little<font color="#E5E5E5"> he would tell me</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> stories he had</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">an</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> uncle who</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> lived in Colorado</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> and so it</font> had this kind<font color="#CCCCCC"> of mystique</font> to me<font color="#E5E5E5"> and I had this idea that you</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> were</font> going<font color="#E5E5E5"> to drop like right</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> in the</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> middle</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">of the mountains coming to Atlanta</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> I had</font> no<font color="#E5E5E5"> idea what</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> it</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> was really like and</font> about<font color="#CCCCCC"> so I</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> just decided that's where I'm</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">going to go</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> I really had no clue</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> of</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">where why I was going accepted</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> you know</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">1,500</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> miles away</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> from what I knew</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> Your</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">Honor I you know I thought I had to go</font> be<font color="#E5E5E5"> in a completely new environment to</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">have a new experience with myself</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">mmm so when you first got there was it</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">like right I made the right decision or</font> was there like man what<font color="#E5E5E5"> was I thinking</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">or anything</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> like I was I was pretty</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">jazzed okay here and you know if you</font> know<font color="#E5E5E5"> Boulder</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> about it and especially</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> in</font> those days it wasn't nearly as crowded as it<font color="#E5E5E5"> is now and it just backs up</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to</font> these beautiful<font color="#E5E5E5"> foothills and so I</font> really became you<font color="#CCCCCC"> know a different</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">person I started</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> running and mountain</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">climbing and camping outdoors and I just</font> loved<font color="#E5E5E5"> it</font> yeah<font color="#CCCCCC"> it's broke down my my</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> niche</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">Wow did you find like the surrounding</font> areas<font color="#E5E5E5"> that were attracting you away from</font> Colorado or<font color="#CCCCCC"> one thing</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> that I personally</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">experienced</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> I used to be a national</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">sales person</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> so I got to go to a lot of</font> fun cities but I kind of kissed the <font color="#CCCCCC">ground when I came</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> back here did you</font> have a<font color="#CCCCCC"> similar</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> experience of well</font> Colorado<font color="#E5E5E5"> great let's see a couple</font> surrounding areas if it gets any<font color="#E5E5E5"> better</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">than this yeah I did I definitely you</font> know once I started heading out west and I started you<font color="#CCCCCC"> know I went all the way to</font> California<font color="#CCCCCC"> right so I was drew Utah</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> in</font> Nevada and New<font color="#CCCCCC"> Mexico</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> and actually I</font> spent some<font color="#CCCCCC"> time in</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> New Mexico</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> when I did</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">my internship I lived on the Navajo</font> reservation<font color="#CCCCCC"> and I loved</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> it there but I</font> knew that California wasn't my place and you<font color="#CCCCCC"> know even</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> later years later went on</font> I<font color="#E5E5E5"> met my husband he was very interested</font> in living<font color="#E5E5E5"> like it in</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> California and San</font> Diego<font color="#E5E5E5"> and</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> you know I could say I love</font> the<font color="#CCCCCC"> area but it wasn't my home</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> you know</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">it wasn't where I really resonated with</font> the environment I think you know you said that you<font color="#CCCCCC"> moved</font> in<font color="#E5E5E5"> I mean</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> you went</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> through</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> it</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> some time</font> in New Mexico<font color="#CCCCCC"> a</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> reservation where</font> whereabouts<font color="#E5E5E5"> in</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> Tinley</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> Chinle Arizona</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">actually was right on the</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> border of New</font> Mexico <font color="#E5E5E5">okay was on the Navajo</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> reservation</font> Navajo<font color="#E5E5E5"> Hopi okay while I lived in</font> Albuquerque<font color="#E5E5E5"> for 20 years so I</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> was just</font> curious<font color="#CCCCCC"> to</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> it</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> yeah</font> yes I spent<font color="#CCCCCC"> a</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> lot of time and you</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> know</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">oh God</font> in Taos and Santa Fe<font color="#E5E5E5"> and all around</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> and</font> at one point<font color="#CCCCCC"> we had I was part of a</font> spiritual community<font color="#E5E5E5"> that was down</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> with</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">Southern in Mexico near the on the San</font> Francisco River down<font color="#CCCCCC"> there</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> look alright</font> now this<font color="#E5E5E5"> is a stereotype</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> or</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">generalization but in the</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> South</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> they are</font> known as a sedentary lifestyle<font color="#CCCCCC"> meat and</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">potatoes</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> type of environment</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> and</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> you're</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">we're here to talk</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> about alchemy</font> nutrition and<font color="#CCCCCC"> nourishment and all that</font> was your transition during<font color="#E5E5E5"> while you</font> were<font color="#CCCCCC"> living on the Navajo</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> reservation or</font> did you even<font color="#E5E5E5"> grow up with the</font> traditional sedentary meat-and-potatoes lifestyle well I I<font color="#E5E5E5"> grew up on I know you</font> know kind of just<font color="#E5E5E5"> given the nature</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> of</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">Who I am</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">I started cooking</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> really really young</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">and I grew</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> up</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> with your typical fried</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">chicken mashed potatoes lima beans</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> with</font> butter beans<font color="#CCCCCC"> and I became a vegetarian</font> by the time I was 15 and<font color="#E5E5E5"> I</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> have</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> just</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">been I'm a professional cook and I was</font> cooking<font color="#CCCCCC"> for family</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> and friends</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> you know</font> long as I can remember<font color="#E5E5E5"> so I really</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> have</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">II think that was one reason that</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> I left</font> is it at that time<font color="#E5E5E5"> you know I definitely</font> it wasn't so easy to be a vegetarian and it wasn't easy to kind of learn about <font color="#E5E5E5">you know I want to</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> say natural eating I</font> don't even<font color="#E5E5E5"> want to call it alternative</font> eating because it's only<font color="#E5E5E5"> alternatives to</font> what<font color="#E5E5E5"> I'll</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> call the standard</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> American</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">diet it's more original way</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> of eating</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">and so I just I've</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> always had that as a</font> part<font color="#CCCCCC"> of my quest I should say what was</font> it like there in the holiday when you came home for Thanksgiving oh my god you really want me guess there's our<font color="#E5E5E5"> special</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">Sheila</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> a special family member well</font> everybody I got<font color="#E5E5E5"> a lot of akkad I</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> said I</font> got a lot<font color="#CCCCCC"> of flack for the fact that I</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">really wasn't going to like</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> our sweet</font> potatoes with melted marshmallows on top <font color="#E5E5E5">or the canned cranberry sauce or you</font> know<font color="#E5E5E5"> do you name it or the oh</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> the green</font> bean casserole with cream of<font color="#E5E5E5"> mushroom</font> soup and priced<font color="#E5E5E5"> what is it onion</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> rings</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">on the top but but I have</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to say</font> everybody was<font color="#E5E5E5"> always really</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> happy to</font> have to cook break<font color="#E5E5E5"> up the bodies</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> and</font> single our before<font color="#E5E5E5"> we dive in your book I</font> do want to ask<font color="#E5E5E5"> you because you were able</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">to marry</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the two</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> and if they were happy</font> to<font color="#CCCCCC"> make you cook</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> he kind of like sneak</font> some of these some<font color="#CCCCCC"> of the healthy</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">ingredients into what was traditionally</font> known as unhealthy<font color="#CCCCCC"> oh yes</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> and I think</font> that's part of the<font color="#E5E5E5"> art of what I do is</font> you know<font color="#E5E5E5"> there's a great way to make</font> a green bean casserole<font color="#CCCCCC"> that's</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> absolutely</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">actually far more</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> delicious and and just</font> making<font color="#CCCCCC"> the</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> cold foods you don't need to</font> use any process or can food and it's great and<font color="#E5E5E5"> I think that's one</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> of the</font> beauties of<font color="#E5E5E5"> really educating people to</font> to<font color="#E5E5E5"> eat well</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> is that when they</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> taste it</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">not</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> only you</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> know do they taste the</font> difference they<font color="#CCCCCC"> can really</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> feel a</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">resonance they can feel a difference and</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">so it's it's an experience in my whole</font> orientation I would say it's into what I call body sensing where it's about every education and allowing your<font color="#E5E5E5"> body to</font> teach you and inform<font color="#E5E5E5"> you about you know</font> whether its food or the environment <font color="#CCCCCC">having really digested and</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> how</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> does</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> it</font> feel and and does it<font color="#E5E5E5"> really nourish you</font> or not<font color="#E5E5E5"> if you walk away feeling still</font> just a<font color="#E5E5E5"> little bit hungry</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> or empty or</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">irritated</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> yeah there's the argument</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">after people eat</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> that</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> food it's like</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">it's short-lived and you're hungry</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> again</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">an hour or two later exactly yes</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">and you know there's such a um how can</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> I</font> say we have such an epidemic<font color="#CCCCCC"> now you</font> know with obesity<font color="#E5E5E5"> with type 2 diabetes</font> with heart disease and fundamentally it comes down to how we feed yourself until you're<font color="#E5E5E5"> a chef so</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> who's and how we don't</font> and we really kind of lost connection to what it feels like to to eat well and <font color="#E5E5E5">feel really</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> good I don't think</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> we really</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">know how this</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> we are capable</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> of feeling</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">there's just a lot of like oh</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> well I'm</font> this age<font color="#CCCCCC"> so I expect</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> to be you know a</font> key–and and not<font color="#E5E5E5"> to think</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> as clearly and</font> not to have<font color="#CCCCCC"> it's kind</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> of energy that I</font> had when I<font color="#E5E5E5"> was 30 years or</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> 40 but um I</font> don't experience<font color="#E5E5E5"> that</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> and really believe</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">that's so true yeah I agree</font> okay right<font color="#E5E5E5"> on</font> you bring up a good point<font color="#E5E5E5"> with</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> that</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">Esther</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> because since you live in Boulder</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">and part</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> of the spiritual community</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> I</font> did want to bring up<font color="#CCCCCC"> just recently I</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> was</font> listening<font color="#E5E5E5"> well I listened</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to slide note</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">listen to Esther Hicks Abraham Hicks all</font> the time and and you know<font color="#E5E5E5"> love their</font> material is great so in one segment Esther or Abraham was talking about how <font color="#E5E5E5">you feel</font> supersedes anything and so if you're if <font color="#CCCCCC">you're eating McDonald's but</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> you feel</font> really<font color="#E5E5E5"> good about not saying you should</font> have<font color="#CCCCCC"> a daily</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> diet at all but if you're</font> eating McDonald's and it feels<font color="#E5E5E5"> really</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">good</font> then<font color="#E5E5E5"> the way your body absorbs it it's</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">different then I'm Ian McDonald and I</font> feel guilty about it let's here take<font color="#CCCCCC"> it absolutely absolutely</font> I call my<font color="#CCCCCC"> works of psychology of</font> nourishment<font color="#CCCCCC"> and the psychology of eating</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">and I'll tell you a very similar story</font> at a client who came<font color="#E5E5E5"> to me and he had</font> very<font color="#E5E5E5"> bad</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> gut pain</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> and he said you know I</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">really want help but</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> I I need to let</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> you</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">know that I love McDonald's I eat</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> it</font> every<font color="#CCCCCC"> day</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> and you</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> can't take my</font> McDonald's away from me<font color="#E5E5E5"> and I was like</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">okay great you know and</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> I'm</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> thinking to</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">myself what am I going to do here and so</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">I said</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> well how do you you</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> know</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> what's</font> your lunchtime like and and he<font color="#E5E5E5"> said well I usually</font> leave my office<font color="#CCCCCC"> and I get in my car and</font> I go through<font color="#E5E5E5"> the drive in the drive</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">through and I I get my double</font> cheeseburger and fries and I eat it in my car and<font color="#E5E5E5"> then I go back to</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> work</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> and</font> it's great<font color="#CCCCCC"> I so</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> locate what I really</font> want<font color="#E5E5E5"> you to do is to take that food and</font> go to a park<font color="#CCCCCC"> and I want you to</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> sit down</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">and you can use your phone and time</font> yourself<font color="#E5E5E5"> and I want</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> you</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> to sit there</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> for</font> 15<font color="#E5E5E5"> minutes</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> and chew your</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> food and and</font> look at the scenery around<font color="#E5E5E5"> you and you</font> know<font color="#E5E5E5"> eat your</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> lunch and eat McDonald's</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">you know don't change anything else I</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">just want you to take this time so he</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">came</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> back to me about</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> two</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> weeks later</font> and<font color="#CCCCCC"> he</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> walks in and he's</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> smiling and I'm</font> like okay<font color="#E5E5E5"> well</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> what happened and he says</font> well I feel<font color="#E5E5E5"> great and I'm like well</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">that's great and I said well so what are</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">you doing and he said well have you</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> ever</font> sat down<font color="#CCCCCC"> and really</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> uh eaten a</font> McDonald's hamburger slowly and tasted it and I said well honestly<font color="#E5E5E5"> no and he</font> said<font color="#E5E5E5"> after three days of eating like</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">that I felt like</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> I had</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to go find</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> myself</font> something else to<font color="#CCCCCC"> eat and he quit eating</font> his<font color="#CCCCCC"> mcdonald hamburgers lunch</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> and he had</font> to take<font color="#E5E5E5"> the full 15 minutes to eat</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> and</font> it<font color="#E5E5E5"> was a complete</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> change</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> I'm going to</font> say energetically emotionally and physically of<font color="#E5E5E5"> eating and so he didn't</font> have indigestion<font color="#E5E5E5"> anymore and you know I</font> think<font color="#E5E5E5"> if he</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> had</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> really loved how</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> it</font> tasted that he you<font color="#E5E5E5"> know perhaps could</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">have eaten it</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> eaten it at a slower pace</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">eaten it in this you know</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> beautiful</font> natural environment<font color="#CCCCCC"> and felt good</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> but</font> what happened was beyond my expectation <font color="#E5E5E5">and he</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> actually tasted the hamburger and</font> decided he didn't<font color="#E5E5E5"> like</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">anymore Wow</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> is</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> another you have a</font> beautiful story<font color="#CCCCCC"> that's</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> great</font> so I feel<font color="#E5E5E5"> like a part of which what gets</font> me<font color="#E5E5E5"> you know really</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> excited and working</font> with<font color="#CCCCCC"> clients as my objective is to</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> teach</font> people<font color="#CCCCCC"> to</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> educate them how</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to really</font> feel and experience<font color="#E5E5E5"> as opposed to think</font> of an experience<font color="#E5E5E5"> because</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> so</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> much</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> of us</font> immediately<font color="#CCCCCC"> go to what I'm</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> going to call</font> our head brain as opposed to our belly brain our enteric nervous system<font color="#CCCCCC"> and to</font> our heart brain are you know feeling <font color="#CCCCCC">Center and so the more</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> that</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> we can</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">actually have a somatic bodily</font> experience<font color="#E5E5E5"> the more it kind of um</font> integrates fully into a cellular resonance<font color="#CCCCCC"> and I</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> think that's what Esther</font> Hicks was there<font color="#E5E5E5"> Abraham was was talking</font> to<font color="#E5E5E5"> that we can</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> change our our cellular</font> capacity the health and well-being of ourselves<font color="#CCCCCC"> by having a higher resonance</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">and that</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> resonance of pleasure</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> in joy</font> really allows there to be fluidity and fluidity and<font color="#CCCCCC"> what I want</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> to say mobility</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">and receptivity within the cell because</font> otherwise if you look at all<font color="#CCCCCC"> our chronic</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">diseases what happens is ourselves</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">become very rigid and resistant and so</font> they can't receive or communicate back and<font color="#E5E5E5"> forth and they can't receive the</font> hormonal information that's necessary <font color="#CCCCCC">for</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the cell</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to really thrive</font> got anything that yeah it makes total <font color="#CCCCCC">sense I would I do want to share</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> I think</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">you'll appreciate this so in my own</font> corporate life I worked with a <font color="#E5E5E5">architecture firm and we design research</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">labs</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> so</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> he did the CDC lab out it and</font> Boulder<font color="#E5E5E5"> and CDC</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> right here</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> Atlanta what</font> have you and<font color="#E5E5E5"> so I</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> tell them self person</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">you know I had to go</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> around</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the country</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">so we can</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> design that labs and all types</font> of research labs so anyway what pertinent<font color="#E5E5E5"> for this story is I was riding</font> around<font color="#E5E5E5"> with</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> a</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> vet at Emory</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> who will</font> decline<font color="#E5E5E5"> and they had an experiment</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> I</font> want to<font color="#CCCCCC"> save the late 1990s early 2000s</font> where they said mice a steady diet of fast food for 30 days and<font color="#E5E5E5"> that</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> the mouse</font> the mice<font color="#E5E5E5"> wound up getting type 2</font> diabetes<font color="#CCCCCC"> a car accident day 18 so it's</font> really<font color="#E5E5E5"> interesting</font> a study died of that in my eye and<font color="#E5E5E5"> I</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">think there was</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> a movie supersize me or</font> something similar happened to<font color="#E5E5E5"> him yeah</font> exactly well but there was a great study with mice where they<font color="#E5E5E5"> actually took the flavor</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">gave them you know I guess their typical</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">mouth food and then they gave them food</font> that<font color="#E5E5E5"> had no flavor to it whatsoever and</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">the mice died they starved to death even</font> though they were eating<font color="#E5E5E5"> the food because</font> it never<font color="#CCCCCC"> registered in their in their</font> body in<font color="#CCCCCC"> their brain</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> without the papers</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">Wow the taste sensation and they starve</font> to death <font color="#E5E5E5">well now the question</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> on the</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> other side</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">of that yeah so on the psychology of</font> nourishment<font color="#E5E5E5"> and you were just talking</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">about the mice and the taste one thing</font> that triggered<font color="#CCCCCC"> me is what stood out from</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">that I</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> mean there</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> were a</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> number of</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">things from that story about</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> that person</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">who went out for 15 min</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">but I was kind of looking at some</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">different areas the first part is the</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">fact that</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> that</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> person actually</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> sit out</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">sat out intentionally for 15 minutes</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">like you said at a park so all they did</font> was<font color="#CCCCCC"> actually</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> were relaxed from they</font> weren't<font color="#E5E5E5"> thinking about their</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> date what</font> was going on<font color="#E5E5E5"> at work or anything like</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">that</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> and</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> that gave them that cotton been</font> a<font color="#E5E5E5"> Dobbs</font> may<font color="#E5E5E5"> not</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> have known it but it gave on</font> that time to<font color="#CCCCCC"> actually ingest the food as</font> opposed to<font color="#E5E5E5"> taking it from the drive-in</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">eating it on the way back to the office</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">and getting</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> back to work where</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> people</font> aren't are just feeding<font color="#E5E5E5"> themselves</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">they're not really enjoying the food</font> right and<font color="#CCCCCC"> then the second part</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> when</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">you're talking about taste I remember</font> always being<font color="#E5E5E5"> jealous</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> if you can</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> imagine</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">but I was jealous of</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> the</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> people at work</font> that went out for a<font color="#E5E5E5"> smoke break</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> I mean I</font> didn't<font color="#E5E5E5"> smoke so why don't I get</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> the</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> 15</font> minutes but the fact that they<font color="#CCCCCC"> seem more</font> relaxed because<font color="#CCCCCC"> they were actually</font> outside<font color="#E5E5E5"> smoking it and they had their</font> that taste of that nicotine potentially I'm just looking at<font color="#E5E5E5"> it</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> from the</font> psychology<font color="#E5E5E5"> of ingesting well exactly</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">like what what I like to say I use</font> eating as a medic metaphor and we eat everything we eat this conversation we have we're eating the environment<font color="#E5E5E5"> that</font> we're sitting<font color="#E5E5E5"> in we're eating the</font> outdoor experience<font color="#CCCCCC"> we're eating the</font> music we<font color="#CCCCCC"> listen to</font> we're ingesting all of those impressions <font color="#E5E5E5">we're taking them all in and how well</font> we're able<font color="#E5E5E5"> to break them down assimilate</font> them allow them<font color="#CCCCCC"> to</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> circulate in our body</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">and nourish us is our</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> capacity to</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> be</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">really fully nourished by life and</font> unfortunately we remove so quickly from experience<font color="#E5E5E5"> to</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> experience that we often</font> don't fully assimilate and digest<font color="#E5E5E5"> our</font> experience<font color="#E5E5E5"> so</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> like</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> what's happened</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> for</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">him is he</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> was able</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> to actually be</font> nourished by the park that he was <font color="#E5E5E5">sitting in in that 15 minutes</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> in a way</font> that he'd never experienced you know<font color="#E5E5E5"> so</font> he<font color="#E5E5E5"> can if he could you know have an</font> experience of<font color="#E5E5E5"> the emptiness of the food</font> versus the fullness of<font color="#CCCCCC"> the beauty of the</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">environment he was in now that makes</font> sense<font color="#E5E5E5"> so it's really rather fun to</font> observe<font color="#CCCCCC"> you know</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> just to begin to</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> become</font> aware and<font color="#E5E5E5"> to watch these kinds of things</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">because you know</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> what happened when he</font> was eating<font color="#CCCCCC"> in the car</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> is</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> that he never</font> really<font color="#E5E5E5"> went out of</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> sympathetic nervous</font> system<font color="#E5E5E5"> that's if he had his foot</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> on the</font> gas pedal<font color="#CCCCCC"> for his nervous system and</font> that<font color="#CCCCCC"> cortisol levels but</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> he was</font> constantly in<font color="#E5E5E5"> this fighter flight and</font> when he you know stopped and sat<font color="#CCCCCC"> down</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> he</font> like he took<font color="#E5E5E5"> his</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> foot off the gas pedal</font> on<font color="#CCCCCC"> the whole body could go ha and have a</font> new experience<font color="#E5E5E5"> so help me out here</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> I'm a</font> little a little<font color="#E5E5E5"> confused</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> I thought the</font> best time to eat is when you're watching the<font color="#E5E5E5"> nightly news</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> dispenser you know I</font> grew up watching<font color="#E5E5E5"> the what was it the</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> end</font> of<font color="#CCCCCC"> the Vietnam War when I was a little</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">girl and it was always so tense</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> I hated</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">dinnertime</font> great<font color="#E5E5E5"> and that's you know one of the</font> many assignments<font color="#CCCCCC"> that I give my clients</font> is like put<font color="#E5E5E5"> on beautiful music have a</font> nice flower arrangement a candle<font color="#E5E5E5"> but</font> could not read a book or you<font color="#CCCCCC"> know not</font> watch TV<font color="#CCCCCC"> until later on</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> but even</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> if you</font> do watch TV<font color="#E5E5E5"> that it's more of</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> a fun</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> kind</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">of experience maybe you're with your</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">family and and or you're with your</font> partner<font color="#CCCCCC"> and it's something</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> uplifting</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">don't sit and watch the 6 o'clock</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> news</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">while you're trying</font> you just can't digest<font color="#E5E5E5"> both</font> simultaneously yeah so let<font color="#E5E5E5"> me ask you it usually at</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">dinnertime a generation ago</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> everyone sat</font> at the dinner<font color="#CCCCCC"> table and talked about</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">their day but you know now the</font> children's schedules are just as packed if not more<font color="#CCCCCC"> so than their parents</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> so</font> what are some<font color="#CCCCCC"> ways that you're getting</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">clients to take</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> a breath</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> while they're</font> eating to have more<font color="#CCCCCC"> family time well</font> because I get so many families you<font color="#CCCCCC"> know</font> where kids have been diagnosed<font color="#E5E5E5"> with</font> attention deficit disorders or other <font color="#CCCCCC">behavioral issues and I have</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> to explain</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">a lot</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> about what are</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> called excitotoxin</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">they're preservatives and colorings and</font> and different<font color="#E5E5E5"> additives in our food</font> create actual neuron excitability<font color="#E5E5E5"> in the</font> brain which contributes to<font color="#E5E5E5"> why these</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">children can't focus and sit down so I</font> really encourage them<font color="#CCCCCC"> to try to</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> make you</font> know<font color="#CCCCCC"> 15-20 minutes of some kind of fun</font> mealtime<font color="#E5E5E5"> and to have some conversation</font> or<font color="#E5E5E5"> you know to have some nice music</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">playing you know and you know if you've</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">got to go from 100 miles an</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> hour and</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">you're trying to</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> get down to 25 miles an</font> hour you got to step it<font color="#CCCCCC"> down</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> so maybe</font> they'll watch a<font color="#CCCCCC"> slower paced</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> type of TV</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">if they're used to watching</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> something</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">but definitely not</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> on computers or</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> you</font> know iPhones or anything like<font color="#E5E5E5"> that</font> because this would<font color="#E5E5E5"> be the</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> frequency that</font> those images are flickering<font color="#E5E5E5"> at really</font> affect the brain<font color="#CCCCCC"> and so it</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> really</font> affects<font color="#E5E5E5"> your ability</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to be able</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> to</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">assimilate your food and it keeps your</font> body in<font color="#E5E5E5"> this kind of hyper tonal or</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">hyper-vigilant</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> state so you know I try</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">to get mealtime to be absolutely</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> the</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">most important time where they</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> can begin</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">to shift some of these behaviors</font> one thing though<font color="#CCCCCC"> when he answering it</font> but I was just<font color="#CCCCCC"> singing about</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> please I</font> was thinking about the movie<font color="#CCCCCC"> supersize</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">me</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> and in the movie they had mentioned</font> that<font color="#E5E5E5"> the other cultures outside</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> of</font> America<font color="#E5E5E5"> when they go to the supermarket</font> they<font color="#E5E5E5"> usually go on the surrounding areas</font> that's<font color="#E5E5E5"> where the fresh food is and most</font> Americans usually<font color="#CCCCCC"> shop inside</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> where</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> you</font> have the preservatives<font color="#CCCCCC"> and what have you</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">and the other argument in the movie was</font> well<font color="#E5E5E5"> I can't</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> afford all that</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> fresh food</font> I can't go a<font color="#E5E5E5"> whole food so what</font> suggestions would<font color="#CCCCCC"> you make for someone</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">to have a healthy diet</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> on a budget you</font> still have to shop the outer rim of<font color="#E5E5E5"> the</font> supermarket<font color="#CCCCCC"> and we have what's</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> called</font> that's the Dirty<font color="#CCCCCC"> Dozen or the dirty</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">fifteen and those are the foods the</font> vegetables<font color="#E5E5E5"> that you definitely</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> do not</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">want</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> to buy non-organic and you know as</font> it becomes more<font color="#CCCCCC"> and more of a movement</font> in this<font color="#CCCCCC"> country then we'll see the the</font> costs come<font color="#CCCCCC"> down</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> in organics</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> you know</font> it's got<font color="#CCCCCC"> to be where people</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> stand up and</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">make a difference</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> because</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the amount of</font> pesticides and<font color="#CCCCCC"> glyco phosphate which is</font> Roundup Ready which is in our<font color="#E5E5E5"> food is is</font> killing literally our population and so it<font color="#E5E5E5"> it's critical especially for children</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">but adults as well to get remove that</font> from<font color="#E5E5E5"> our diet so I try to to</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> educate</font> people how<font color="#CCCCCC"> to make</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> simple meals you</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> know</font> with with<font color="#CCCCCC"> Whole Foods and you know</font> there's plenty<font color="#CCCCCC"> of beans and grains that</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">you can buy</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> much less inexpensively and</font> just getting fresh foods<font color="#E5E5E5"> and teaching</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">people how</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to really use</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> herbs and</font> spices<font color="#CCCCCC"> because I think</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> that that's a bit</font> lost in our culture<font color="#E5E5E5"> that's you know much</font> more prevalent<font color="#E5E5E5"> in traditional cuisines</font> you know like our Mexican food or<font color="#E5E5E5"> our</font> Indian<font color="#E5E5E5"> food</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> another the reason that we</font> love them<font color="#CCCCCC"> so much is</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> they're they're</font> really<font color="#E5E5E5"> rich and herbs and spices</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> and so</font> they have a lot of flavor<font color="#E5E5E5"> rather than</font> flavor enhancers<font color="#E5E5E5"> and then you're</font> naturally rich on their own you<font color="#E5E5E5"> know but</font> it<font color="#E5E5E5"> is a problem I mean it's it's a lot I</font> want<font color="#CCCCCC"> to</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> say it's a it's a social problem</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">of economics</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> that you know exists on so</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">many different levels but you know one</font> of<font color="#E5E5E5"> my big now I'm going to get on my</font> soapbox here<font color="#E5E5E5"> but I very affected</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> by</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the</font> lead poisoning in Flint Michigan<font color="#CCCCCC"> and I</font> really wanted<font color="#CCCCCC"> to go</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> out</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> there and raise</font> the<font color="#CCCCCC"> money to make smoothies</font> detoxification smoothies for<font color="#E5E5E5"> the</font> children<font color="#CCCCCC"> that basically</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> had a lot of</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">berries in them and foods that</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> actually</font> can detoxify heavy metal poisoning<font color="#CCCCCC"> and</font> get some<font color="#E5E5E5"> good fish oils in there and</font> some probiotics<font color="#E5E5E5"> all the foods</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> disease</font> children because they're on poverty level they never have and naturally chelate the<font color="#E5E5E5"> genes that</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> you can naturally</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">find to those toxins and remove them out</font> of the body and<font color="#CCCCCC"> you know it's</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> just</font> really<font color="#E5E5E5"> difficult to get funding and to</font> not to<font color="#E5E5E5"> get funding but I was</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> just</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> trying</font> to get you know<font color="#CCCCCC"> the mayor and</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the doctor</font> who<font color="#E5E5E5"> is in charge</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> of the study just to</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">get their attention like hey let's do</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">something to</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> start to detoxify these</font> kids and so that they can be healthy <font color="#CCCCCC">because this lead poisoning is extremely</font> serious<font color="#CCCCCC"> and it's</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> going</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> affect not</font> only their physicality<font color="#E5E5E5"> but their mental</font> behavioral development and it's<font color="#E5E5E5"> really hard</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to get this kind</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> of</font> cultural change that<font color="#E5E5E5"> that you know can</font> make<font color="#E5E5E5"> that</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> happen</font> give<font color="#CCCCCC"> you</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> a lot of pushback</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> I got like no</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">reception whatsoever</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">you know like they just you know they</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">didn't</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> want</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> to hear about you know it's</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">very interesting with two years later</font> they<font color="#CCCCCC"> still don't even get</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> good water</font> yeah so it's really it's kind of a wash but what's<font color="#CCCCCC"> really sad and I think that</font> is kind<font color="#E5E5E5"> of unknown is that so many of</font> our<font color="#E5E5E5"> public water systems do have high</font> lead content<font color="#E5E5E5"> and you know there's a lot</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">of research</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> out right now that's showing</font> how higher levels of these heavy<font color="#CCCCCC"> metals</font> lead to more criminal behavior<font color="#E5E5E5"> hmm and</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">so you can start</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to you know to see such</font> a<font color="#CCCCCC"> big link between poverty and</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> you know</font> behavioral issues and<font color="#CCCCCC"> then criminal</font> issues and you know<font color="#E5E5E5"> that inability</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">really kind of pull yourself up by the</font> bootstraps but you know because already <font color="#E5E5E5">been negated from early childhood</font> development<font color="#E5E5E5"> development we want a whole</font> nother tangent a lot of<font color="#CCCCCC"> Temple</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> has</font> talked about<font color="#CCCCCC"> that they'll eventually</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">school systems across the country</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> it</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">just really changed</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> one</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> thing that is</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">really interesting</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> I'm glad we're having</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">this conversation now</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> because it's</font> January 17 2008<font color="#CCCCCC"> een and if we look at</font> the numbers by February<font color="#CCCCCC"> first everyone</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">that started with their intention for</font> a<font color="#CCCCCC"> New Year's</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> resolution goes away so you</font> know hopefully we'll get the message out with<font color="#E5E5E5"> people here</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> in your your ear talk</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">but when you talk about when you talked</font> about<font color="#E5E5E5"> Michigan it made me think of like</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">you said the psychology and the the</font> misnomer of a smoothie it seems like a luxury like that's something<font color="#E5E5E5"> that some</font> upper class person would pay for and that's unfortunately<font color="#E5E5E5"> what is the</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">association when you say that that's</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">probably why you didn't get</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> any feedback</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">and one thing</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> that I found</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> is after</font> Amazon<font color="#E5E5E5"> collude last year a lot</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> of their</font> prices have come down<font color="#E5E5E5"> considerably</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> so</font> you know it's more<font color="#E5E5E5"> of getting</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> that</font> message out<font color="#E5E5E5"> there</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> that there</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> are</font> alternatives<font color="#E5E5E5"> one of which is the alchemy</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">of nourishment so I'd like to have you</font> talk about<font color="#E5E5E5"> you know how you started the</font> alchemy<font color="#CCCCCC"> of nourishment what that</font> foundation is talk about<font color="#CCCCCC"> your book but</font> how did<font color="#E5E5E5"> it all come about let's see I</font> mean<font color="#CCCCCC"> if she</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> could say this is kind of</font> been my passion<font color="#E5E5E5"> ever since I was very</font> young<font color="#CCCCCC"> and</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> such</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> it I've been cooking and</font> as I<font color="#E5E5E5"> grew older I I gravitated and tried</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">to learn as much as</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> I could about</font> cooking with<font color="#E5E5E5"> full</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> service and at a</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> very</font> young age<font color="#E5E5E5"> and I was</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> like</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> 20 21 I started</font> a whole food catering company<font color="#E5E5E5"> and so I</font> learned to bake bread mix our dough's make basically<font color="#E5E5E5"> all our foods from</font> scratch and it was tremendously successful<font color="#E5E5E5"> which led me to go and get my</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">masters in nutrition I was an artist</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">that's my undergraduate degree</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> and I</font> became kind<font color="#E5E5E5"> of dogmatic about there must</font> be a better<font color="#E5E5E5"> way to be healthy</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> than what</font> I<font color="#CCCCCC"> were I</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> know and where I please brother</font> and so I basically<font color="#E5E5E5"> just followed my</font> passion<font color="#E5E5E5"> and that led me to meeting some</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">really extraordinary people and then I</font> began to<font color="#CCCCCC"> really understand that</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> it was</font> much more than<font color="#CCCCCC"> if the kind of</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the</font> science or<font color="#CCCCCC"> the vitamins</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> and</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> minerals</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">that make up our food that</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> there's a</font> whole nother quality to<font color="#E5E5E5"> our food</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> that I</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">call the energetic</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> qualities you know we</font> talked about<font color="#E5E5E5"> things resonated with one</font> other that<font color="#E5E5E5"> there's a vibrational essence</font> or quality<font color="#CCCCCC"> of</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the food and how</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> it grows</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">and where it is and what kind of food it</font> is<font color="#CCCCCC"> that also gives</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> us a quality of</font> energy<font color="#CCCCCC"> and and that equally is important</font> as you know<font color="#E5E5E5"> that the way we can measure</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">vitamins nutrients or fats and</font> carbohydrates and<font color="#E5E5E5"> proteins so you know</font> first<font color="#E5E5E5"> I went the how can I say the</font> scientific route<font color="#E5E5E5"> and then I had to go</font> but why<font color="#CCCCCC"> just you know two people who eat</font> the same<font color="#CCCCCC"> foods in the same quantity why</font> is one heavy and the others not<font color="#E5E5E5"> why is</font> one depressed than the others not<font color="#CCCCCC"> so you</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">know</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> I I'm kind of a nerd that way I had</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">to study the psychoneuroimmunology and</font> and understand the science<font color="#CCCCCC"> so that I</font> could make a bridge between<font color="#E5E5E5"> the science</font> and what I'll call the energetics or that vibrational world that<font color="#E5E5E5"> Esther Hicks</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">Abraham</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> speaks through her</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> about and and</font> so my book is<font color="#CCCCCC"> called</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> art science</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">magic of eating and it really explains</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">about</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> the fact that we are eaters and we</font> eat everything you know<font color="#E5E5E5"> read our conversations we and</font> we eat our dinner<font color="#E5E5E5"> and so what is the</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">quality</font> of the nourishment<font color="#CCCCCC"> that we're taking in</font> and<font color="#CCCCCC"> the</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> higher that quality the more</font> efficient<font color="#E5E5E5"> and the more the fuller our</font> nourishment<font color="#CCCCCC"> and that really equates to</font> to<font color="#E5E5E5"> thriving and a certain vibrancy</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> and</font> health and and our<font color="#E5E5E5"> relationship to to</font> others and to<font color="#E5E5E5"> everything that we're</font> doing one thing<font color="#E5E5E5"> I found and I did</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> I</font> didn't know until I started<font color="#E5E5E5"> doing some</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">research on on talking to you but I</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> saw</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">that there's a</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> market for even a vegan</font> dog food and do you<font color="#CCCCCC"> write I was like</font> what<font color="#CCCCCC"> are you serious but apparently</font> there's a market for and I'm thinking in Colorado it's probably a<font color="#E5E5E5"> normal</font> conversation that yes I'm<font color="#CCCCCC"> vegan and so</font> does my dog<font color="#E5E5E5"> or is that the case out</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">there I mean</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> I have to say that my dogs</font> eat grain free diet so that's because I'm looking at<font color="#E5E5E5"> well</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">what did a dog to eat</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> I mean dogs didn't</font> go around<font color="#E5E5E5"> eating corn yeah you know if</font> you look at<font color="#E5E5E5"> the you</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> know</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> kind of the</font> evolution<font color="#CCCCCC"> of</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> the dog or</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> the wolf they</font> ate meat<font color="#CCCCCC"> and that's</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> what there's that's</font> how their system<font color="#CCCCCC"> has evolved to digest</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">so for many of</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> us the foods</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> that we eat</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">they they didn't even exist 50 years</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> ago</font> so we have no biological<font color="#E5E5E5"> capacity to</font> really<font color="#E5E5E5"> digest those foods yeah yeah</font> there's so many chemicals<font color="#CCCCCC"> that are in</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">there</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> that our bodies can't recognize</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">especially when you get</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to the foods</font> that like are the no fat you know like<font color="#CCCCCC"> olestra and you know</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">aspartame that</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> are</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> our our biology our</font> cellular<font color="#E5E5E5"> makeup cannot recognize those</font> chemical substances<font color="#E5E5E5"> well we did have we</font> you know how long has men been around <font color="#E5E5E5">four hundred thousand years</font> and you know<font color="#E5E5E5"> 20</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> years of</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> that kind of</font> chemical going<font color="#CCCCCC"> through our body is</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> like</font> a half a second<font color="#E5E5E5"> on a you know</font> evolutionary clock<font color="#E5E5E5"> to nothing yeah what</font> what is<font color="#E5E5E5"> it going</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> on well you take on our</font> vaccines for children<font color="#CCCCCC"> oh my</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> goodness</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">you're really opening up</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> a big door here</font> David let's poke in the hornet's nest <font color="#CCCCCC">introduce you</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> to my mom conversation on</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">that one oh my gosh</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> that's a big one</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">I think that there's a great memories</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">I'm going to make it brief</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> but this is</font> there's a<font color="#E5E5E5"> lot of information</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> and</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> I'll</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">actually email you this particular</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> movie</font> that you should watch a lot<font color="#CCCCCC"> of things</font> are going<font color="#CCCCCC"> into vaccine</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> since Ronald</font> Reagan<font color="#CCCCCC"> was</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> president</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> that</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> have never</font> been<font color="#E5E5E5"> in vaccines and they do not have to</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">be scientifically tested by the</font> different drug companies and there's a lot<font color="#E5E5E5"> of research out there of what's</font> happening when we give these vaccine in third-world countries<font color="#CCCCCC"> because we don't</font> do the<font color="#CCCCCC"> research here in our country and</font> I really advise my clients<font color="#CCCCCC"> to not get</font> the<font color="#E5E5E5"> whole package</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> there's way too much</font> invasion on<font color="#E5E5E5"> the immune</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> system at once</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">and there's a lot of time chillers and</font> transport in these vaccines that<font color="#E5E5E5"> are</font> very<font color="#E5E5E5"> harmful to</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> the body so I like my</font> client to allow<font color="#E5E5E5"> their their children to</font> be older<font color="#E5E5E5"> and to get their immune systems</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">to start to develop and have strength</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> on</font> their own and then simplify the vaccine you<font color="#CCCCCC"> know that's a huge education that</font> that's got to happen and there's you <font color="#CCCCCC">know honestly there's a lot of money</font> that<font color="#E5E5E5"> keeps that from</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> happening</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> yeah</font> we want to be honest<font color="#CCCCCC"> remitted that's a</font> big can of<font color="#E5E5E5"> worms</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> I was really surprised</font> last year when our<font color="#E5E5E5"> current president our</font> Canadian chief they asked him about vaccines<font color="#E5E5E5"> and was he going to get a flu</font> shot<font color="#E5E5E5"> one happy he's like that stuff</font> never works<font color="#E5E5E5"> and I was just like the</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">lobbyists</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> and the pharmaceutical</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">industry</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> would be knocking</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> on his door</font> first thing in the morning<font color="#E5E5E5"> I'm I never</font> really did and then look who he nominated<font color="#E5E5E5"> for the head of</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> this</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> all right</font> yeah so they did they<font color="#CCCCCC"> nothing historian</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">you know is easy for them because he</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">said so many</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> things that he says the</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">opposite the next day right</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> oh yeah</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> but</font> I had a real problem<font color="#CCCCCC"> you know even on</font> NPR<font color="#E5E5E5"> like a couple weeks</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> ago they're</font> talking about<font color="#E5E5E5"> you know we have a new</font> strain of<font color="#E5E5E5"> flu</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> that spreading through the</font> country this<font color="#E5E5E5"> year and they start off</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> the</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">the report talking about how they had it</font> in Australia<font color="#CCCCCC"> and</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> our typical</font> flu vaccine isn't<font color="#E5E5E5"> really um</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> as they</font> designated<font color="#E5E5E5"> it doesn't really help</font> diminish this<font color="#E5E5E5"> new you know species of</font> flu but we should get the flu<font color="#CCCCCC"> shot</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">anyway okay the next segment was and you</font> know and one<font color="#CCCCCC"> of the reasons you should</font> get get it is because if you<font color="#E5E5E5"> go to</font> church and<font color="#E5E5E5"> you</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> have a cold</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> and you know</font> you're going<font color="#CCCCCC"> to feel pretty bad about</font> giving<font color="#E5E5E5"> the flu to your you know</font> congregation members and I was just<font color="#E5E5E5"> like</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">oh</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> my god is so crazy</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">whoa you know here we</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> have a flu shot</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">that doesn't necessarily it's</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> not even</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">that's very effective and not</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> only that</font> we're playing<font color="#E5E5E5"> and everybody you know</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">guilt</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> and conscious whether you decide</font> to get<font color="#E5E5E5"> the flu</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> shot or</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> not so it's it's</font> a big arena<font color="#E5E5E5"> that you</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> know I'm</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> glad it's</font> starting to come up the conversation<font color="#CCCCCC"> but</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">you know</font> well since we<font color="#E5E5E5"> got</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> your</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> riled up I guess</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">we'll keep it going a little</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> bit so let</font> me okay<font color="#E5E5E5"> so let me add fuel to the fire</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">here s there so you had mentioned into</font> the past 15 years or<font color="#CCCCCC"> so you know our</font> bodies<font color="#E5E5E5"> have been trying to adjust to all</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">these different additives and</font> preservatives that<font color="#E5E5E5"> are in our food</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> and</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">in our water what have you what's your</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">take on that as being a response to</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">potential food shortage with this</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">population growth and</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> this is how if</font> people knew how much actual natural<font color="#E5E5E5"> food</font> exists<font color="#E5E5E5"> there would be panic</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> so let</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> me</font> make<font color="#E5E5E5"> sure I understand the</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> question</font> right<font color="#E5E5E5"> are you saying that we have a food</font> shortage of<font color="#E5E5E5"> natural foods there's one</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">person or one perception</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> out there that</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">all these additives exist</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> so they can</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">kind of spread the food out to the</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">population that so they can eat instead</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">of not eating I think that that's a</font> complete lie<font color="#E5E5E5"> that's being said to the</font> culture<font color="#E5E5E5"> and</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> that</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> it's run by excuse me</font> Monsanto<font color="#E5E5E5"> that genetically modified the</font> foods and creates all the<font color="#E5E5E5"> psycho</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">phosphates that are pesticides and</font> growth<font color="#CCCCCC"> hormones to go on the food</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> and so</font> there's<font color="#E5E5E5"> lots of wild foods and there's</font> there's<font color="#E5E5E5"> plenty</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> that we can you</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> know grow</font> in a much more organic<font color="#CCCCCC"> and buy organic</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> I</font> mean you know in a more dynamic relationship with you know this<font color="#CCCCCC"> nature</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">this these these different chemicals</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> and</font> genetically modified to<font color="#E5E5E5"> actually create</font> insects that are<font color="#E5E5E5"> resistant</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">to these different chemicals so that</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">they mutate and become stronger and you</font> know it's the same way with you know penicillin and antibiotics<font color="#CCCCCC"> there's now</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">we're becoming</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> resistant</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to it these</font> bacteria<font color="#E5E5E5"> has mutated and has evolved to</font> be resistant to these antibiotics we have a huge you know<font color="#E5E5E5"> issue</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> today</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> as a</font> culture and so we've got to learn<font color="#CCCCCC"> how to</font> grow<font color="#CCCCCC"> our food in a way</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> that doesn't</font> strip<font color="#E5E5E5"> the natural minerals and the</font> microbiome<font color="#E5E5E5"> out of our soils so that we</font> can produce a healthy<font color="#CCCCCC"> population</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> of</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">people</font> I totally<font color="#CCCCCC"> we get to</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> round up a little</font> bit you did you guys that's a big<font color="#CCCCCC"> topic</font> and yeah just you<font color="#CCCCCC"> know I like to</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> be able</font> to you know<font color="#CCCCCC"> state</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> how can I say research</font> and be able<font color="#CCCCCC"> to do that which not knowing</font> what we're going<font color="#CCCCCC"> to talk about I</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> don't</font> have those things<font color="#CCCCCC"> in front</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> of me but you</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">get my bit more emotional input in my my</font> concern<font color="#E5E5E5"> you know a lot</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> of my book is</font> about<font color="#E5E5E5"> detoxification is just really help</font> toxic our food system has<font color="#E5E5E5"> become you</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">know</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> and that our bodies</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> can't handle</font> that toxic burden<font color="#E5E5E5"> and you know that's</font> why we're seeing astronomical numbers of people<font color="#E5E5E5"> with diabetes</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> cancer and all</font> kinds of diseases and<font color="#E5E5E5"> these are all</font> diseases<font color="#E5E5E5"> that are external that are</font> internally created<font color="#CCCCCC"> we're you know at the</font> turn of<font color="#E5E5E5"> the 19th century was</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> the first</font> time we began to<font color="#E5E5E5"> see disease that came</font> became<font color="#E5E5E5"> internal as opposed to externally</font> originated hmm interesting<font color="#E5E5E5"> yeah I mean</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">it's a huge shift</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> oh just for the record</font> so we I<font color="#E5E5E5"> just want to have it on the</font> record<font color="#CCCCCC"> there's</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> a lot of people still</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">look at Monsanto</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> but I know that they</font> were<font color="#CCCCCC"> acquired by their or they have some</font> type<font color="#CCCCCC"> of partnership with</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> Bayer now so a</font> lot<font color="#CCCCCC"> of</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> people aren't</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> looking at Bayer</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">where they may be</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> doing more</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> research</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">under the Bayer umbrella while people</font> are still focusing on Monsanto but<font color="#CCCCCC"> I did</font> mention<font color="#E5E5E5"> you</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> did mention in the 1900s you</font> started<font color="#E5E5E5"> looking internally or the trend</font> was<font color="#CCCCCC"> to start looking internally kids</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> you</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">let us</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> know how you I see on your site</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">that you're listed</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> as an intuitive</font> nutrition counselor so we're part of the into it what<font color="#CCCCCC"> is the process</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> when</font> somebody<font color="#E5E5E5"> comes to see it intuitive</font> nutrition counseling okay so<font color="#E5E5E5"> I'm when I</font> can read energy<font color="#CCCCCC"> like I'm a medical</font> intuitive so I see<font color="#E5E5E5"> where there is stagnation</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> or where</font> there is a<font color="#E5E5E5"> merit system is not</font> functioning<font color="#CCCCCC"> correctly and then I'm</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> also</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">looking at like you know why my question</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">in</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> exploration is you know why is this</font> breast cancer in this woman and maybe you know<font color="#CCCCCC"> ovarian cancer in another woman</font> or type 2<font color="#CCCCCC"> diabetes</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> like I'm looking at</font> not only<font color="#E5E5E5"> you</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> know okay you've got this</font> disease and and how are<font color="#E5E5E5"> we going to</font> remediate<font color="#E5E5E5"> it or how are we going to heal</font> it<font color="#E5E5E5"> but I'm trying</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to understand more of</font> what the expression<font color="#E5E5E5"> is about in other</font> words I look at there's a all our<font color="#E5E5E5"> organs</font> and<font color="#E5E5E5"> all ours our physiology holes</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> of</font> consciousness<font color="#CCCCCC"> and by that I mean</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> our</font> liver<font color="#CCCCCC"> you know not only does it</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> work</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">physiologically but how it works</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">physiology to be logically informs us</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">about how it works</font> energetically<font color="#E5E5E5"> like the liver we call it</font> the liver because it has the capacity to <font color="#E5E5E5">rejuvenate itself you can lose</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">two-thirds</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> of your liver it can regrow</font> itself right<font color="#E5E5E5"> so it's really about that</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">quality of regeneration</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> and it</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> holds a</font> consciousness as you can understand <font color="#E5E5E5">through Chinese medicine of being a</font> visionary<font color="#CCCCCC"> and the liver</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> is very</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">connected</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to the eyes as</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> well and it has</font> these capacity<font color="#CCCCCC"> effects being the general</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">in</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> that when the health of the liver is</font> is optimal the rest of the body<font color="#CCCCCC"> it</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">cleanses the blood that goes to the</font> heart so when we digest<font color="#E5E5E5"> food it goes</font> immediately<font color="#CCCCCC"> to the</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> liver that detoxifies</font> it and then sends<font color="#E5E5E5"> it senses pure</font> nutrients to<font color="#CCCCCC"> the heart</font> so it performs<font color="#E5E5E5"> over 500 functions and</font> it's like the workhorse of<font color="#CCCCCC"> the body so</font> if somebody has a liver<font color="#E5E5E5"> issue</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> we'll say</font> I'm<font color="#E5E5E5"> looking at you know</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> how are they</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">over doing how are they over living how</font> are they under living<font color="#E5E5E5"> where does their</font> sense of vision<font color="#E5E5E5"> and the ability</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to like</font> see the big picture<font color="#CCCCCC"> how is</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> that affected</font> you<font color="#CCCCCC"> know in their life where do they</font> feel<font color="#E5E5E5"> like they lost their spirit so</font> we're looking<font color="#CCCCCC"> more energetically</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> to</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">explore some of the beliefs habits and</font> patterns<font color="#E5E5E5"> that</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> each person holds that's</font> affecting their physiology<font color="#E5E5E5"> over time</font> that make<font color="#E5E5E5"> sense</font> no that was<font color="#CCCCCC"> those a great explanation</font> and<font color="#E5E5E5"> we are actually at</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> the top</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> of the</font> hour this<font color="#CCCCCC"> hour has flown by definitely</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">since we got you riled up I want to</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> see</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">if</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> we can</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> just</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> you round up for another</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">60 minutes you</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> can see I kind of</font> passionate<font color="#E5E5E5"> about all this oh yeah no not</font> at all not at<font color="#CCCCCC"> all please if you remember</font> send us an<font color="#E5E5E5"> email with the documentary</font> about<font color="#E5E5E5"> the vaccines</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> I'd love</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> to see it</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">and for those on the podcast</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> if you hit</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">up those on the podcast</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> if you listen</font> and<font color="#E5E5E5"> you go to intrinsic motivation about</font> life and you send us an email<font color="#CCCCCC"> I might</font> share that documentary with you<font color="#CCCCCC"> so</font> there's a little<font color="#E5E5E5"> incentive on that</font><font 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com my favorite<font color="#E5E5E5"> one that</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> I make what is</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> it</font> so it usually<font color="#CCCCCC"> has a handful of</font> watercress<font color="#E5E5E5"> and a handful of spinach and</font> blueberries and a little bit of<font color="#E5E5E5"> black</font> cherry juice not from concentrate<font color="#E5E5E5"> and a</font> little bit of fish oil<font color="#E5E5E5"> I like to think</font> of it as a<font color="#E5E5E5"> delivery</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> system</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> some homemade</font> yogurt<font color="#E5E5E5"> and maybe a half an apple Wow</font> sounds good<font color="#E5E5E5"> and that's it and then</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> I mix</font> it all<font color="#CCCCCC"> up different ways but that's my</font> favorite<font color="#CCCCCC"> all</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> right well my lemon ginger</font> blast <font color="#E5E5E5">you probably heard of those yep</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">no my absolute most</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> favorite drink and</font> you'll have to look in<font color="#CCCCCC"> your book it's</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">tumeric sunrise oh yeah yeah I use the</font> altmer to my lemon ginger blast and maybe what's<font color="#CCCCCC"> allowed habanero habanero</font> chili you know it's also blue and it's a blast yeah<font color="#E5E5E5"> yeah that's</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> a hot one but it yeah</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">okay I</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> will</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> just think</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> move in though</font> yeah clean<font color="#CCCCCC"> yeah I'm going</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> to follow your</font> suggestion<font color="#CCCCCC"> after and do that</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> watercress</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">of spinach as I watched x-files next</font> that will<font color="#E5E5E5"> be my little treat for tonight</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">my</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> to this for water crashes with the</font> most<font color="#CCCCCC"> anti-cancer</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> plant on the planet</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">water kefir yeah and it's nice but you</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">know it gives you that</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> I seen it</font> absolutely wow that was it that was a <font color="#E5E5E5">great way to end it and it was</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">definitely a pleasure ester Cohen</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> you</font> have been in tune<font color="#CCCCCC"> to another podcast</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">episode of intrinsic motivation of a</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">homies perspective this is</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> Hamza and</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> I</font> am<font color="#CCCCCC"> David</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> and</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> Esther definitely thank you</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">we thank</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> you for</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> taking the time</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> to</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">meet with us and let's stay in touch so</font> we<font color="#E5E5E5"> can have you</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> on for a future episode</font> <font color="#CCCCCC">yes</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> wonderful thank you so much this has</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">been really fun</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> yeah</font> thanks again for<font color="#CCCCCC"> checking out another</font> episode<font color="#E5E5E5"> of intrinsic motivation from a</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">homeless perspective podcast please</font> check<font color="#CCCCCC"> us out on our</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> website at intrinsic</font> motivation dot life<font color="#E5E5E5"> where you can click</font> on<font color="#E5E5E5"> the speak pipe button and leave any</font> suggestions<font color="#E5E5E5"> for a future podcast that</font> you'd like<font color="#CCCCCC"> us to cover</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> also check us out</font> on<font color="#CCCCCC"> our social media</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> sites we have a</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">YouTube</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> channel Facebook</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> page</font> iTunes podcast<font color="#CCCCCC"> in addition to stitcher</font> and Google Play all<font color="#E5E5E5"> under intrinsic</font> motivation from<font color="#E5E5E5"> a</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> homeys perspective</font> <font color="#E5E5E5">check you</font><font color="#CCCCCC"> out next</font><font color="#E5E5E5"> time have a great day</font> you